Post by Peter Wieck Post by Jon Yaeger Post by west
just like you (Weik) & Yeager. At least PA has an excuse (illness). What's
yours ... hate yourself, frustration? Yeager also has an excuse, jealous
immaturity. I wish you wouldn't answer any posts of mine. There's enough ill
will already here.
unsigned out of utter contempt
I never understood this "unsigned out of contempt", utter or otherwise . . .
as the headers are already "signed". But it's a trite little phrase that
your idol Jute employs, so I'm not surprised.
I still can't figure out what I'm supposed to be jealous of . . . your
knowledge, demonstrated craftsmanship & skills, articulateness, high
intelligence . . .
Do tell, friend!
The difficulty with West is that he/she expects to be taken seriously
at all levels and at all times. There are some pretty basic issues
a) a limited sense-of-humor. This is the primary requirement for
reasonable survival in Usenet.
b) the hide of a rhinocerous. After a sense-of-humor, the next-most
c) recent-convert-syndrome: Most such are quite dedicated and quite
fanatical... see a) and b) above.
d) youth: West is likely quite young and impressionable. One of the
hardest experiences in a young life after the first broken heart is to
discover that one's first 'adult' hero actually does have feet of
e) absolute syndrome: The fallacious thinking that the opposite of
Black is necessarily White.
Then, of course, one may discuss his/her choice of avatars. अवतार. If
the choice is to be Kato to Jute-McCoy's Clouseau, there is not much
that can be done about it other than hope for an awakening before
permanent brain-damage sets in. Now, that analogy is apt in another
way... those who are too close to the noted pair tend to get caught in
the collateral damage. My position (and I write -only- for myself in
this case) is to see Jute-McCoy in the same light as a wintering den
for rattlesnakes. Fair warning to all is required, but in the main it
is best left ignored, untouched and undisturbed. Well... right. There
are both no snakes in Ireland and rattlesnakes are environmentally
important. Sorry for a bad second analogy.
For me, this is a hobby. Audio/Vintage Radios/Clocks/RC and so forth
get perhaps 4-5 hours a week of my time, including such posts as this.
And I consider myself blessed that my life and circumstance permits
such luxury. My personal favorite tasks are the restoration of
equipment (SS & Tube) of certain vintages... with the more difficult
the problem the better. I don't take _any_ of it seriously... That
would be directly contrary to the purpose of a hobby, after all.
Lastly, West seems to be entirely unaware that many here have paid
their dues, are entitled to their opinion (and have no hesitation
about expressing such), and in some cases are not particularly 'nice'
people. Such is life, t'was ever thus and ever will be. I will take
honest, direct, and knowledgable over 'nice' under all conditions and
Some good observations and points there, Peter.
We probably have a bit in common -- I like to restore gear and do a limited
amount of design (with the emphasis on LIMITED). I also have a life and a
lot of other interests besides audio, believe it or not.
I like to read many of the posts here, although the quality of info and the
goodwill that brought me here, say, five or so years ago are long gone.
There are still a lot of good posts and posters (e.g. Iain Churches, etc.)
whom I read and enjoy and respect and don't feel compelled to interact with
unless there is a common interest about a tube subject.
There are others, who, perhaps owing to a character defect (mine) inspire me
to tease and deride. As you point out, some can take it and fire back, etc.
Sure, sometimes I'm a horse's ass.
I'm not sure how West and I got sideways. I reviewed some of my sent
correspondence from a few years back and there was quite a bit of cordial
communication between us.
Then Jutey-Fruity assailed my character (as he is wont to do when he can't
compete otherwise) and made some groundless mention of how I supposedly had
cheated old West.
Jutey-Fruity has this way of making up bad stuff about folks and repeating
it at every opportunity as if it is fact. It's fairly obvious that in his
mind fiction is truer than reality.
West (or someone who sounded a lot like Jute posting as West) recently
leveled the same tired old general accusation on this NG.
I took him to task and challenged him to say publicly in detail what I
supposedly did to wrong him.
Like Jute, West never responded with facts or details because there aren't
It's hard for me to respect someone that acts like such a tool, especially
when he never seems to add anything to the threads, except to pose regular
questions and act like he never absorbs anything from the answers.