Discussion:
Quad Bulgin AC mains plug
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Mary Killebrew
2005-01-29 20:54:00 UTC
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Rats,

Anyone know where i can get them in the US? Had to cannibalize my Quad
preamp so I could plug in the Quad II amps.

Also, does anyone have a schematic of the old ESL 57 audio transformer
circuitry? Sheldon Stokes has the newer one but I can't find the old one.
Thanks!

Kevin Killebrew
Austin, Texas
Phil Allison
2005-01-30 00:43:00 UTC
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"Mary Killebrew"
Post by Mary Killebrew
Rats,
Anyone know where i can get them in the US? Had to cannibalize my Quad
preamp so I could plug in the Quad II amps.
** "Farnell in One" have them in their catalogue, 313-968 - they have
a US sales branch.
Post by Mary Killebrew
Also, does anyone have a schematic of the old ESL 57 audio transformer
circuitry? Sheldon Stokes has the newer one but I can't find the old one.
Thanks!
** Same as the new one minus the high pass filter ( 2x 560 pF and 270 K
ohms ) feeding the treble panels ( brown wires) .



................... Phil
Mike Coatham
2005-01-30 03:42:10 UTC
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Post by Phil Allison
"Mary Killebrew"
Post by Mary Killebrew
Rats,
Anyone know where i can get them in the US? Had to cannibalize my Quad
preamp so I could plug in the Quad II amps.
** "Farnell in One" have them in their catalogue, 313-968 - they have
a US sales branch.
Sorry but that's the wrong plug. The Quad II uses a flat 2 pin Mains plug
which is NLA from Farnell or anyone else.Quad don't have any either as I
bought up all their stock of these a while back.
I'd recommend buying up a few more QC2 Mono control units as junkers and
pirate the parts off them.. They use quite a few parts which are common to
the 22 Control Unit - e.g. all knobs (except Vol. control); Mains plug &
socket(also used on the Quad II). The power outlets for the Tuners can be
re-used on the 22 as well.
Phil Allison
2005-01-30 03:56:09 UTC
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"Mike Coatham"
"Phil Allison"
Post by Phil Allison
"Mary Killebrew"
Post by Mary Killebrew
Anyone know where i can get them in the US? Had to cannibalize my Quad
preamp so I could plug in the Quad II amps.
** "Farnell in One" have them in their catalogue, 313-968 - they
have a US sales branch.
Sorry but that's the wrong plug.
** You are quite correct - the Quad ESL57 uses a Bulgin 3 pin plug, the
large version, 22mm dia.
The Quad II uses a flat 2 pin Mains plug
which is NLA from Farnell or anyone else.
** Was it even a Bulgin one at all ??

The AC inlet on my ( lone) Quad Mk II has been swapped for a 3 pin mains
XLR type - just a bit a chassis filing needed to make one fit.
Quad don't have any either as I
bought up all their stock of these a while back.
I'd recommend buying up a few more QC2 Mono control units as junkers and
pirate the parts off them..
** What a cruel fate .......




.............. Phil
c***@hotmail.com
2005-01-30 22:16:05 UTC
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Seems it wouldn't be beyond someone with a lathe and a Palmgren mill
attachment to make molds...or they could be EDM'd from an
original-there's probably a reasonable market for them. I would replace
the connector before parting out an old box for one. I don't think an
XLR is appropriate for mains voltages however. A PowerCon perhaps?
Phil Allison
2005-01-31 01:25:43 UTC
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Post by c***@hotmail.com
Seems it wouldn't be beyond someone with a lathe and a Palmgren mill
attachment to make molds...or they could be EDM'd from an
original-there's probably a reasonable market for them.
** Sure - sell maybe 20 a year.
Post by c***@hotmail.com
I don't think an
XLR is appropriate for mains voltages however.
* The Cannon XLR-LNE series were designed for AC power use.

5 amp rating, shrouded pins, quite incompatible physically with other
XLRs.





............. Phil
Mary Killebrew
2005-01-31 02:01:32 UTC
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Well, the plug says "Bulgin" on it....

KK
Post by Phil Allison
"Mike Coatham"
"Phil Allison"
Post by Phil Allison
"Mary Killebrew"
Post by Mary Killebrew
Anyone know where i can get them in the US? Had to cannibalize my Quad
preamp so I could plug in the Quad II amps.
** "Farnell in One" have them in their catalogue, 313-968 - they
have a US sales branch.
Sorry but that's the wrong plug.
** You are quite correct - the Quad ESL57 uses a Bulgin 3 pin plug, the
large version, 22mm dia.
The Quad II uses a flat 2 pin Mains plug
which is NLA from Farnell or anyone else.
** Was it even a Bulgin one at all ??
The AC inlet on my ( lone) Quad Mk II has been swapped for a 3 pin mains
XLR type - just a bit a chassis filing needed to make one fit.
Quad don't have any either as I
bought up all their stock of these a while back.
I'd recommend buying up a few more QC2 Mono control units as junkers and
pirate the parts off them..
** What a cruel fate .......
.............. Phil
Mike Coatham
2005-02-01 08:06:05 UTC
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Post by Phil Allison
** You are quite correct - the Quad ESL57 uses a Bulgin 3 pin plug, the
large version, 22mm dia.
Post by Mike Coatham
The Quad II uses a flat 2 pin Mains plug
which is NLA from Farnell or anyone else.
** Was it even a Bulgin one at all ??
Yes - definitely Bulgin. I've still got about 2 dozen or so spares but I
ain't parting with them as I regularly repair quite a few Quads & sometimes
have to fit one for a customer. Sooner or later they will run out.
Farnell & RS used to carry them as stock items up to as recently as about 4
years ago - if my memory is correct.
As the Quad mono control units are relatively plentiful - they are a useful
source of spares.
c***@hotmail.com
2005-02-01 16:14:05 UTC
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You are right there are a bunch of XLR connectors, however, "XLR"
without modifiers in the audio world is usually assumed to be the
common three pin small signal version. There are people out there who
will use these inappropriately! Plus which, at least in the US, they
are rare. Neutrik is a growth company and their PowerCon has big
advantages over IEC, so if in doubt that might be the best way to go.
However the XLRs designed for power are probably fine.
Phil Allison
2005-02-02 00:22:48 UTC
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Post by c***@hotmail.com
You are right there are a bunch of XLR connectors, however, "XLR"
without modifiers in the audio world is usually assumed to be the
common three pin small signal version.
** I think you are alluding to this comment:

" The AC inlet on my ( lone) Quad Mk II has been swapped for a 3 pin mains
XLR type - just a bit a chassis filing needed to make one fit. "

Errrr - see the words " .... 3 pin mains XLR type " ???????

The particular connector is commonly referred to as a "Cannon mains plug ".

BTW

Neutrik also made a similar and **compatible** series of connectors to the
Cannon XLR-LNE series.
Post by c***@hotmail.com
There are people out there who
will use these inappropriately!
** That is why I was careful to put the word "mains" in front of XLR.
Post by c***@hotmail.com
Plus which, at least in the US, they are rare.
Neutrik is a growth company and their PowerCon has big
advantages over IEC, so if in doubt that might be the best way to go.
** In this case a PowerCon is much to large to fit in lieu of the original.
Post by c***@hotmail.com
However the XLRs designed for power are probably fine.
............ Phil

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